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"stealth" ships are ugly, no question. Stealth aircraft are weird but not as bad as ships. To me, a good looking plane or ship has nice curves, but that's my aesthetic preference elsewhere as well.
"Can A Battleship Be Stealthy?" At times during the night battles in the Solomon Islands and Leyte Gulf they were certainly stealthy on occasion. But that was before radar became ubiquitous.
Stealthiest Battleship award still goes to USS Washington.
Have the crew in grass skirts, a few palm trees scattered around the deck and on the supper structure. Nobody would notice any Battleship. Might work for Aircraft carriers as well. Also get rid of the grey paint, use various shades of green, and brown!
Finished the Bismarck book. Lol I know where you got the description of the Princz Eugin breakaway.
Ofc they can – Battle of Cape Matapan , just ask Drachinifel
Ngl I thought USS Washington would be brought up
Keep up the good info! I’m learning a lot.
"Can a battleship be stealthy?" "I know, let's disguise it as a museum!" We see what you're up to, there! 🙂
I suspect that several Italian heavy cruisers can confirm that yes, battleships can be very stealthy indeed.
How about installing and using diffused lighting camouflage (yehudi)? Might be useful vs. those w/o radar to close into effective range.
There will probably never be another naval vessel that has the beautiful lines of a battleship. Let's be honest though the Zumwalts are ugly as sin. In reality it doesn't matter what it looks like, what matters is her functionality. I would give up stealth for the shore bombardment capabilities though. With tensions rising in the pacific and the possible island campaigns that may be on our doorstep there could be a need again for the battleship. A ship that can move in close to shore and take some punishment from shore batteries while handing out massive amounts of shells is no where close to anything in the naval arsenal anymore.
First thing I thought of when you say "Stealth Battleship" wasn't the Zumwalts, but HMS Revenge. Stealth isn't just hardware, but actually being sneaky.
4:32 Given the correct equipment, you can read what a computer is doing from the EMR it gives off. Everything will pretty be unique. If you have a baseline signature to go from, it seems likely you could determine specific ships.
Another great video! You are like a really entertaining naval encyclopaedia
I wonder what a Soviet fleet admiral could have said after receiving the following transmission: To the Soviet fleet in the midst of witch we are navigating, this is battleship New Jersey: we are friendly, we just tested our teleportation device and it worked fine.
Very simple : purchase a dozen priceworthy F35,place them in front of your BB and bobs your uncle(:-)
I remember playing a naval miniatures scenario using Larry Bond's HARPOON rules. This was in the late 1980s. I was commanding an Iowa class BB. We had a battle group engaging a Soviet battle group that was hiding inside a squall. We were EMCON. The Soviets sent out a chopper to get a radar lock and started firing missiles at us. The admiral commanding our battle group to "resume full emissions." The referee then said, "You are now the 6th most powerful radiation source on the planet." Such fun.
I’d imagine on Radar a battleship would “look” like a large container ship or cruise ship. If they keep the speed down and were where you might expect to find such a ship they could “hide”. You’d still be able to detect visually or from signals but it should get you close
We used to go to EMCON a lot when we were playing with the Soviet trawlers. We would turn into the wind and recover aircraft then go EMCON and speed up to 3x the trawler's top speed and take off. Soon you couldn't see him anymore and we would turn some other way. Sometimes it would be 2 days before he caught up to us again. We'd see that black, diesel smoke on the horizon and here he'd come. You have to laugh.
Did a walk through of a Zumwalt and it is pretty awesome on the inside
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Stealth is interesting. While very hard to detect with radar, the aircraft are still very visible to the "Mark 1 Eyeball". That is why in the Gulf War the F-117s only operated at night AND when there was no higher clouds. Stealth can also be had by terrain masking. Radar can not see through mountains. Radar is lined of sight. You can until quite close stay under the radar beam and not be detected.
You can be stealth, you can hide behind terrain, and you can stay very close to the ground. Either of these defeat radar.
You also have jamming to confuse radar. With jamming, you are no longer a dot on the screen, but hidden in the mass of false returns on the screen.
One non electronic way you can be detected is by your heat signature. The hot gasses from the stacks can be seen at night. Missiles can home in on that.
In WWII, paint schemes were used to both mark ships harder to see and to confuse the identity. We painted some of our pre-war cruisers to look like destroyers. Paint can be use to make the true course harder to figure out when looking through a periscope. False bow waves can make figuring out the speed more difficult. Some ships even had false bows painted on the deck to make the size and direction harder to know. We used Deck Blue paint on the horizontal surfaces to make the ship harder to see.
Now Haze Gray is used to make the ships less visible in less than perfect visibility.
Interesting topic for the former Airman, Ryan.
During the 1967 deployment of the USS Randolph (CVS-15) to the Med, I was part of the Air Group in Squadron VS-24 flying the ASW aircraft S2-E. On one of our flights, the ship went into a full Emcon drill. Now of course the aircraft after patrolling the sonobuoy screen for 4 hours, we usually used emissions from the ship to find our way back home. This time they would be turned off, so the ship gave us a specific location where she would be at the time of recovery.
Now the 4 planes in the flight were not setting out a single sonobuoy screen with all of us monitoring the same screen, we each had an assigned area to operate in since there were only 31 frequencies for the buoys and among the 4 planes we had 128 buoys. We finished up our assigned time and headed to the recovery point. We were at the point at the assigned time, but no carrier. Seems she had to move from other sea traffic. So we climbed up to 10,000 feet (flight pattern was 100 feet) to find her. We spotted the smoke trail, dropped down and headed to her and recovered. No radio chatter, just the LSO's normal light signals.
Today's nuke boats don't make smoke, so can be more stealthy and the use of the military GPS system makes it much easier to know exactly where everyone is.
My USS Alabama can get down to 12km (7.5mi in freedom speak) surface detection radius in World of Warships! The South Dakotas have a clear stealth advantage!
Except make them work he says
A stealthy battleship is called a submarine.
I would love to have heard what the Russian admirals had to say when a big bad American battleship turned up unexpectedly in the middle of their naval exercises. Their laundry bill may have been a bit a higher that day too.
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I would like to elaborate on a couple of things.
If you include battleships that manage to sneak up or surprise there enemy , you could argue.
1. The battle of cape Matapan , where thanks to radar , the British manage to ambush part of the Italian fleet at night who wasn’t aware of there presence.
2. The battle of the eastern Solomons , where uss Washington managed at night to get to point blank range of the Krishima.
3. Battle of the north cape , HMS Duke of York managed to surprise scharnhoist in the artic night , but it should be worth mentioning that she had her radar set destroyed.
In regards to Bismarck , there was a doco series about 20 years ago , called Germanys war. They had an interview with a seaman who was aboard HMS Suffolk. I’m paraphrasing what he said , but I remember this part well.
“We followed Bismarck , and she was on our radar sets , and on the very edge of the scope , unfortunately due to uboats , we had to zig zag , so when we zigged , we were in contact , when we zagged , we weren’t in contact. It was when we weren’t in contact that Bismarck decided to turn , and then we lost contact “
The .important quality for any ship is being seaworthy , I know there are stabilising and other measures but in the end it's down to will it float safely when all else fails ?
"design it like the zumwalts except make it work" I believe this is what the kids call a "sick burn"